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@RandamuMaki @eniko Same. I'm on my second of these and the build quality is shockingly bad. The thing flat out stops working if the flimsy plastic battery cover isn't smushed on exactly right - but the basic mini keyboard/touchpad combo is exactly what I need.

@BobDendry @eniko oh awesome this is the device I had in mind but forgot everything about it

@LottieVixen @BobDendry @eniko I have that one as well and it works fine. It can be used as a desktop keyboard in a pinch as well. I am doing so at the moment, as a matter of fact

@ElBeeToots @LottieVixen @BobDendry @eniko if the touchpad on the side is awkward, consider something like https://amzn.to/3YwdEPo where the touchpad is on the bottom like a laptop without a screen or internals

as for explicitly handheld stuff, there really isn't anything you can get that's amazing in that form factor. most of... least-bad ones are made by a brand called "rii", and they cap out around $40-ish

i guess https://amzn.to/3EknQ6O is halfway in between? trackball, not touchpad

@trwnh @ElBeeToots @LottieVixen @BobDendry oh that looks interesting, bookmarking this one

@eniko @BobDendry My favorite feature of the K400 is the duplicate mouse button on the upper left corner. I mouse around like a game pad, and set the whole thing on my lap when I need to type.

I wish there was a higher quality version. The keyboard has a whole has too much physical flexibility.

@loic @eniko I was going to make the exact same suggestion. It makes a great keyboard for the gaming PC (attached to the TV) but it's also handy to grab the dongle and use it to administrate any servers

@zip @loic lack of mouse controls is kind of unfortunate though

@eniko @zip @loic this does make me wonder if you could get steam to do what it does on the steamdeck in desktop mode so you could use that for mouse input, it's a little fiddly to get used to though, and that's if it is even possible

okay so I looked it up, yes

if you have steam installed, big picture mode > settings > controller > scroll to the bottom to non game controller layouts then edit, enable steam input :D then it seems to work just like the steamdeck input

@HeNeArXn @eniko @zip @loic the PS5 touchpad works as a mouse on linux out of the box.

@boxofsnoo @eniko @zip @loic there's also software-only ways to achieve that. Off the top of my head I know Steam's controller settings can do it, but there are open source options too, for example AntiMicroX [github.com] (cross-platform)

@kroltan @eniko @zip @loic indeed, or probably joy2key? I just love the little hardware dongle that gives a HID device superpowers with zero software on the host machine.

@zip @loic @eniko I had that one or a similar Logitech, and I used it the same way. I would love to have a quality mini-keyboard of the same form factor as the one from the OP. Seems like an unmet need.

@CWSmith @eniko Yeah, I've discovered PS5 ones also exist.

@loic @eniko

I keep meaning to get one and see how it functions with my Laptop as a sort of small keyboard when the Controller is connected to Bluetooth.

@0x0961h @eniko used the xbox 360 one and it was easily usable for hours a day but this was also 10-15 years ago so might be more fondly remembering it.

@LottieVixen @0x0961h @eniko ps5 ones in particular seem to be very, very low quality compared to the Xbox counterpart